Friday, March 21, 2008

If you can't smoke in a bar, have bar parties in your home

This is an idea I read about in the comments area of the Peoria article published today.

If you want to read the article itself, CLICK THIS.

One smoker in there said her friend was sick and tired about not being able to smoke in a bar. So what her friend decided to do is renovate one of her crib's rooms and turn the room into a bar. And now this smoker can have bar-like smokers parties at her crib. Where her friends and guests can go over there and have smokes with their drinks.

That's a good idea. It is unfortunate taverns will be the losers in the long-term with the idea of smokers having smoker-friendly parties in cribs with large bar rooms.

So much for the economy hurting that smoking chick. Not if she can afford $1k to have her own bar built.

Thursday, March 20, 2008

Do not buy or read the Peoria Journal Star

Do not buy the Peoria Journal Star, and don't read their online pages anymore. It seems like the journalists on there are one-sided since those mothas deleted my fair comments in regards to the real reason why that asthmatic woman died.

Greg T pointed out that woman to support the argument that people do die from inhaling SHS. That woman died from asthma, she had no inhaler with her on the job, and her condition was treated poorly since she was 2 years old. Neva mind the fact she made a poor decision in working there.

I dunno what's so negligent in suggesting that she died based on poor decisions she made. Because it's a fact SHS neva killed her. If it killed her, how come nobody else died from SHS inhalation in that same tavern? SHS wouldn't kill just one person in a tavern if it's deadly to inhale. Anyone with common sense can figure that out.

Peoria Journal Star won't have to worry about me reading their paper again if they don't want to hear the truth on the REAL reason why that woman died. Greg T is immature in accepting the truth himself

News on possible FDA tobacco regulation

Here's what I found from an RJR spokesperson on this FDA tobacco regulation news:

The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee Subcommittee on Health
recently approved H.R. 1108 granting the Food and Drug Administration
(FDA) broad powers to regulate cigarettes and smokeless tobacco
products. The vote was 18-9 and now sends the bill to the full
committee for consideration. Although nothing is currently
scheduled, it is anticipated that consideration by the full committee
could occur very soon.

Congress will be recessing to go back to their home districts
beginning next Monday, March 17 and will return on the 28th. While
home, it is important that members of the full committee hear
opposition to FDA regulation. If you know of an event or other
gathering or have an opportunity to see a member while he/she is at
home, please take that occasion to express opposition to FDA


Attached are message points to help guide you in expressing
opposition to H.R. 1108 and, to help facilitate contact, below is a
link to a list of the full committee with contact-information :〈=&commcode=hcommerce

Thank you for all your help,

Why FDA Regulation of Tobacco is Bad Public Policy

- The current proposals give overly broad authority to the FDA that
could significantly affect consumer acceptability of tobacco products
thus jeopardizing the entire category at both the retail and
wholesale level.

- Internet and tribal sales would not be covered under the current
proposals leaving traditional retailers at an even greater

- The current proposal would authorize further limits on the sale,
distribution, advertising, and promotion-including in-store retail
display-of tobacco products.

- The bill lacks federal pre-emption language over marketing and
advertising meaning that states could adopt even more stringent laws
creating a patchwork of different regulations nationwide.

- Under the provision of the current proposal, the potential for a
significant black market in tobacco would be enormous.

-If the legislation passes and when government regulators issue
rules, it will undoubtedly result in increased and overly burdensome
reporting and record-keeping requirements creating a real hardship
for many small, family-owned businesses.

- FDA regulation of tobacco will expand the authority of an agency
that has serious issues in its approval process for, and monitoring
of existing drugs. Tobacco regulation will further distract the
agency from its core mission of approving safe and effective drugs
and medical devices to the public.

- The proposed legislation allows states and local governments to
enact any restriction "that is in addition to, or more stringent
than," those in the bill resulting in a 50 state patchwork of
standards forcing retailers and wholesalers to face widely disparate
state and local requirements.

- Bill-supporters are rushing passage of the legislation through
congress without regard to the potential, negative consequences to
the retail and wholesale industries as well as state government and
the revenue stream from the sale of consumer acceptable tobacco

Jay Enthusiastic Smoker
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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Wrigley Field is a smoke-free ballpark this year

I know I was listening to a nonsmoker talking yesterday when he said to everyone "You can tell the person there's no smoking anywhere. But you should still say 'But would you like a hot dog or somethang to drink?' "

Some of those co-workers were laughing afta listening to that piece of crap, myself included. And the supervisor defended himself with "They may not be able to smoke. And I dunno if offering somethang to eat or drink will solve their problem. But you should still be generous. Because if you don't offer them an alternative, they won't botha coming back to the stand."

"Problem?" A fan who learns he/she can't smoke in the ballpark means that smoker has a "problem?" Well, that person DOES have a problem in one sense. If I was a fan who learned the hard way I can't smoke at Wrigley, I'd ask the cashier:

"Where can I go to get my darn money back for this ticket? Telling me I can't smoke in here is BS when you guys don't mind stealing and abusing my money!"

Intoxicated fans cuss at me when they mad. And I'd cuss the cashier out myself if I was in a fan's shoes and I learned the bad news about smoking. And if a cashier actually tried asking THIS smoker "But do you still want a hot dog with a cup of Pepsi?" I'd be laughing with "I don't want somethang to eat or drink. I want a place where I can smoke a cig at! YOU got a luckin' problem if you think someone who wants to smoke is starving or feeling thirsty!"

I'm sure if a smoker reading this blog, including a female smoker, was told "Sorry, you can't smoke anywhere here. But would you like somethang to eat or drink?" I wouldn't blame him/her for feeling insulted by that Q.

That nonsmoking supervisor obviously doesn't understand what life as a smoker is all about. You can't replace not smoking cigs by eating 10 hot dogs at a game.

PS: Once those smoking fans learn they can't smoke, I actually hope they don't botha coming back to WRIGLEY period, let alone the stand I'm working at.

Charges against IL bartender (for allowing patrons to smoke) are dropped

Bartender's charges go up in smoke (Click this for article viewing)

Case dismissed for woman who allegedly let bar patron light up

Wednesday, March 19, 2008


PRINCETON - The case against a Spring Valley bartender accused of allowing a patron to illegally smoke in a tavern was dismissed Tuesday after prosecutors said the state had no right to charge her with such an offense.

Bureau County State's Attorney Pat Herrmann said after Karla Carrington's brief court hearing that once he reviewed the Smoke-Free Illinois Act, which banned indoor smoking in public places beginning this year, he found no authority to file a formal charge.

"Upon reading the statute, it appears the statute does not put any onus on the bar employee or bar owner to prohibit smoking," Herrmann said. "(The act) does prohibit the bar employee or bar owner from smoking."

Carrington and a patron in The Family Tavern, Duane Alexander of Burbank, were cited by Spring Valley police in early February for smoking in the bar. While Carrington was ticketed for allegedly allowing the activity, Alexander was issued a citation for allegedly smoking.

The case against Carrington was initially met in Bureau County court with considerable confusion after Peoria attorney Dan O'Day filed multiple motions on Carrington's behalf that challenged the state ban and the manner in which the case was being processed.

Jim Andreoni, city attorney for Spring Valley, acknowledged in the first court appearance and at the hearing Tuesday the city had no authority to file a misdemeanor charge in the case. Once prosecutors declined to pick up the charge Tuesday, the case effectively was killed, and the court approved an order dismissing the charge.

"They now acknowledge there's no . . . violation for a bartender," O'Day said. "It's over against Karla."

But the challenge to the state's smoking ban that was part of Carrington's case - including questions of constitutionality and the potential to overturn the law through a strangely worded clause - will continue.

O'Day on Tuesday announced his intention to represent Alexander with virtually the same arguments he had laid out in Carrington's case, with some modifications to suit the different charge.

The Bureau County State's Attorney's Office will file a formal criminal complaint against Alexander within the next two weeks, and another hearing was scheduled for that case

Info on the next IL Smokers-based rally

We received the following flyer at the VFW in Robinson. Our Club is planing on Taking the VFW Club Van and members to participate in the parade and activities. It would be great if others of this group could attend.
April 5.2008 @10:00
Olney, Illinois
If you are opposed to the Illinois General Assembly taking away your freedom of choice, as to whether we may smoke indoors, please join us as we publicly make known our opposition to the Illinois ban on smoking in privately owned businesses and clubs.
Our message is to the Illinois General Assembly is that we want the law repealed as it takes away the citizens’ freedom of choice, and has proven to have a detrimental financial impact on Illinois Businesses.
We are not agreeable to the purchase of smoking licenses, or exceptions to the bill. We want the bill repealed, and the freedom of choice returned to the owners and patrons of Illinois businesses.
All who believe that the Citizens of this nation have the right to choose for themselves whether or not to allow a legal activity as smoking on privately owned property are welcome to attend. Vehicles, motorcycles and walkers are welcome.
Parade route will be: from the front of Olney Trustbank, 600 E. Main St.; West on Main St. to Richland County Court House. Talks will be given at the courthouse.
Info. Contact Rev. Gary Wachtel @ 618-843-3559