Monday, February 25, 2008

RE: Wounded smoker at the PA subway

Someone at anotha forum said that PA smoker who pulled out the gun at cops is stupid. This is one of my lengthy replies to that smoker being stupid and how pulling out guns at cops makes smokers look bad.

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hat's one reason why smoking bans have been successful. Because the best supporters of smoking bans are smokers themselves who are willing to obey the law. Antis argue smoking bans do not hurt businesses when you have a large crowd of smokers outside.

If smokers ever want to see smoking bans get revoked, it will never happen if people are willing to smoke outside of any place, including taverns, without any problem from smoke cops. I applaud that IL owner who plans to have a smoke-in at his business on March 1. If you want to be able to smoke in places again, and if you want owners to decide for themselves if they should allow smoking or not (instead of letting the state dictate our lives), then resistance is the only way that goal can be reached.

That guy smoking in-between the train cars is an effect of what happens when you ban smoking in a city. The guy pulled out the gun after he refused to put the cig out. That's not surprising in the real world. Especially in a big city where crime is common. There are probably more smokers with guns than I may think. And if someone bugs them about smoking a legal product in a prohibited area, then I hope that person doesn't pass out form seeing a smoker pull out a gun in self-defense.

We don't need smokers pulling guns out at cops at all. And the only way that's going to happen is if smoking bans ever get revoked. If antis ever get their wish of a smoke-free USA, then the US WILL become more violent. Because not every smoker is brainwashed into thinking SHS kills others and SHS hurts kids. And I'm sure there are some owners who will still allow people to smoke in secret fashion within their businesses. I wouldn't be surprised if those owners got guns themselves.

A law on banning smoking is stupid unless tobacco ever gets illegal.

For the obese people, you're the next group being targeted by fascists. Smoking bans ain't about health whatsoever. It's about greed from antis who simply hate smokers and tobacco. And for smokers who believe in fighting for smoking bans, it's all about trying to preserve the few freedoms we DO have in the land of the nannies. If we allow Big Daddy to take away one freedom form us, then the govt will take away MORE freedoms (like the freedom of eating as much as you want in restaurants)

This is the land of the NANNIES now. If this is gonna be a land where govts tell me how to live and tell owners how to run their businesses, then I'm not an American anymore.

You can't fight a smoking ban with debates with antis. You gotta fight smoking bans by resisting. If more smokers ignored the bans across America, the bans would be a failure. Because while cops are busy trying to stop millions of people from smoking in the wrong areas, the REAL crimes would increase. It would be alot easier to get away with robberies and murders while cops are busy trying to arrest 100s of fed-up smokers.

And if anyone thinks a smoking law will make the world a safer place for all of us to live, you're far from reality. Get rid of the smoking laws. And then you wouldn't have to worry about ANYONE resorting to violence as a way of defending his/her right to smoke a legal product.

Go ahead and follow the smoking law. That means you think smoking bans are good for businesses, and you think banning smoking will make society a better place to live in. But the reality is smoking bans make society a WORSE place to live in. And having smokers with guns is only one effect from a smoking ban that makes society worse instead of better.

More effects that make society worse with a smoking ban is the ban causing more debt for the state of IL, businesses seeing 40-50 percent drops in revenues, and more workers getting laid off (as is the case with Harrah's in Joliet)

My conclusion is the smoking law is making life in IL miserable. And what happened with that Philly man is only a preview of things to come in Chicago. I'll predict someone will walk into a crowded Chicago restroom filled with smokers (homeless people included), someone will point out theres no smoking in here, and that person will receive threats from a smoker if the person refuses to leave til the cigs are put out.

In a world without smoking bans, you wouldn't have "crowded restrooms with smokers" and "smokers threatening someone for refusing to leave him alone."

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